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LGBT Church of Ireland people have both good will and faith @downandromore @churchofireland #8aNoWay

It is energizing to think of the blessing which is possible in our communities if people of good will and faith work together creatively.

- Bishop Harold Miller, Bishop of Down & Dromore

I trust that the Lord Bishop of Down & Dromore will remember his own words when introducing the rather unfortunate motions before the General Synod of the Church of Ireland later today.

It would be great to believe that Bishop Miller will look forward to working creatively with the LGBT community not just in his diocese but across Ireland. From Down & Dromore there were six members of the Church of Ireland who signed the Open Letter to members of the General Synod regarding the motions before Synod later this afternoon. The LGBT people across Ireland who signed the letter as well as their supporters who signed the petition (currently at 117 signatures) have plenty of good will and plenty of faith.

Will Bishop Harold be willing to work with us?

It is hard to see how the Church of Ireland in general, and Bishop Miller in the more local instance will be able to work with the LGBT community if Resolution 8A is passed.

As one of the signatories who worships in Connor Diocese but is resident in Down & Dromore (the River Lagan is the divide for most if not all of the boundary) I am very proud to have been involved in trying to bring to His Lordship’s attention the great hurt that he and the Lord Archbishop of Dublin, Dr Michael Jackson will cause not only to the LGBT Communities across the island of Ireland, but to much of the wider public as well. I sincerely hope and pray that the members of the General Synod will see sense and refuse to hear or pass these motions.

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LGBT Churchpeople still not being listened to: #8aNoWay @churchofireland

The Church of Ireland is governed by General Synod, made up of three Houses: the Laity, the Clergy, and the Bishops. This week, the three houses will meet in Dublin at Christ Church in Dublin to transact the business that ensures the Church continues to work.

General Synod is rather like a mini-parliament: to effect change you need to bring a Bill and form legislation. This week, however, one change is being sought by the back door. And it is being brought by those who should know better: two Bishops.

The bishops tabling the motion are His Grace the Archbishop of Dublin, Dr Michael Jackson, and His Lordship the Bishop of Down & Dromore, Harold Miller. The motions have not been brought to General Synod by the usual methods. No, they have been brought by the back door; they have been sprung on the members of the General Synod without wider debate in the Church. The motions were not submitted in time for the Standing Committee of General Synod to include them in the normal business of the General Synod. It seems that the Bishops have no regard for the due process of the Church of Ireland: this is completely unacceptable.These motions arrived late, and thus have to have two-thirds support from the members of the Synod present and voting as well as the support of the President (usually His Grace the Lord Archbishop of Armagh) to be allowed to be debated1.

The resolutions are, of course, on the issue that apparently is the line in the sand for some: sexuality. Whilst the resolutions can be read in all manner of ways by all manner of people, there is growing concern about the content of Resolution 8A in particular.

The text of Resolution 8A is given below:

Having regard to the present discussions in the Church of Ireland on Human Sexuality in the Context of Christian Belief, the General Synod affirms that: 

• The Church of Ireland, mindful of the Preamble and Declaration, believes and accepts the Holy Scriptures as revealing all things necessary for eternal salvation through faith in Jesus Christ;

• The Church of Ireland continues to uphold its teaching that marriage is part of God’s creation and a holy mystery in which one man and one woman become one flesh, as provided for in Canon 31:

‘The Church of Ireland affirms, according to our Lord’s teaching that marriage is in its purpose a union permanent and life-long, for better or worse, till death do them part, of one man with one woman, to the exclusion of all others on either side, for the procreation and nurture of children, for the hallowing and right direction of the natural instincts and affections, and for the mutual society, help and comfort which the one ought to have of the other, both in prosperity and adversity’.

The Church of Ireland recognises for itself and of itself, no other understanding of marriage than that provided for in the totality of Canon 31;

• The Church of Ireland teaches therefore that faithfulness within marriage is the only normative context for sexual intercourse. Members of the Church of Ireland are required by the Catechism to keep their bodies in ‘temperance, soberness and chastity’. Clergy are called in the Ordinal to be ‘wholesome examples and patterns to the flock of Jesus Christ’.

The final paragraph is the most nasty of all. For it is the one that will legitimise witch-hunts against gay clergy; it is the one that will allow gay people to be excluded from Holy Communion; and it demeans the relationships of remarried divorcees.

It is clear that the Church of Ireland needs to listen to its LGBT members. The Conference on Human Sexuality Homosexuality in March in the Slieve Russell Hotel in County Cavan had no input from LGBT members of the Church of Ireland. I am not a member of General Synod, but I do ask those who are to reject Resolution 8A and allow a real listening process to begin. After all, we were promised this by the House of Bishops back in 2003… surely nine years later it is about time to get started. The Pastoral Letter on Human Sexuality of 2003 also states

the conversation surrounding sexuality is not suited, at this stage, to large legislative assemblies.

I would contend that since there has been no real process by which the views of the LGBT members of the Church can be heard, there has been no fundamental change in the mind of the Church and so that statement still stands.

Notes:
1. Standing Order 31(d)(ii) Standing Orders of the General Synod
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Does Harold Miller also support marital rape?

I am surprised that it has taken so long for the horrible truth to be exposed to us here in Ireland about the man the evangelicals of the Anglican Church in the Provinces of Armagh and Dublin seem to hold as a supporter. That man is a rather radical cleric in the Province of Canterbury.

Thanks to Gerry Lynch, the support given by this cleric to some rather unsavoury views expounded by a well known fundamentalist has been made clear for all to see.

It is more than slightly disturbing to read that the radical cleric is a bishop of the Church of England. What’s worse is that The Right Reverend gentleman is supporting the accusation that the Her Majesty The Queen broke her own Coronation Oath. The bishop in question, is The Right Reverend Wallace Benn.

Wallace Benn may face disciplinary proceedings for alleged misconduct.

The complaint against the bishop is being compiled by the safeguarding advisory group of the Diocese of Chichester… (from BBC news)

You may be asking why does this matter.

Well, this is the man who is coming to talk at the clergy quiet day for the clergy of Down and Dromore on 21 February in Carryduff Parish Church. This will be at least his third visit to Ireland since October last year.

In October he spoke at a meeting of The Evangelical Fellowship of Irish Clergy which discussed the issue of the civil partnership of The Very Reverend Tom Gordon, who is Dean of Leighlin.

Has anyone spoken to Harold Miller, Bishop of Down and Dromore seeking whether he supports the Bishop Benn in his apparent support of marital rape? I doubt if the good parishioners of the diocese of Down and Dromore would support such a view.

 

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The core issue: will you kiss the leper clean?

Will you let the blinded see if I but call your name?
Will you set the prisoners free and never be the same?
Will you kiss the leper clean and do such as this unseen,
and admit to what I mean in you and you in me?

John L. Bell & Graham Maule

This verse was sung at our Covenant of Commitment in All Souls’ Church in Belfast by a large congregation back in May last year. I wonder what many people thought it meant. (more…)

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Jeff Dudgeon MBE

Jeff Dudgeon MBE, third from left
MBE

Medal of an MBE, Image via Wikipedia

Every year, at about this time, I read the list of people upon whom HM The Queen has been pleased to bestow honours. For many years, I have hoped to see the name of one particular person among them. This morning, that hope of mine has been realised.

Jeffrey Edward Anthony DUDGEON. For services to the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender community in Northern Ireland. (more…)

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